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By ucblockhead (Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 05:17:22 PM EST) (all tags)
Wherein I walk too far.

Also OSX whines.



A friend has been hiking all the bits of the Bay Area Ridge Trail off and on and invited me to accompany him on a segment that started at Chabot park and ended at a housing development south of the 580.

It started out a quite nice hike. The first six miles just flew by. Then we hit an area with more trees and a pretty brutal 1000 ft climb in a half mile followed by some nasty up-and-down switchbacks. We were both quite wiped. The last segment turned out to be city streets. It pretty much bit. The heat also came on and we were both suffering from dehydration, so we bailed on the last 500 ft climb to a water tower and replaced it with a wander through a housing development.

I grossly underestimated the water requirements. I drank two liters fairly quickly and then suffered through five miles with no water. We found a park with water fountains that yielded potable water once the yellow stuff stopped. (Apparently not a well used park.) I drank another liter and a half with food and then another liter over the last few miles. Still, I was severely thirsty at the end (though avoiding the last liter of crappy 90F water in my pack.) I went straight to a store and drank an Odwalla "C Monster" and a liter of coke. Despite all this, by the time I arrived home, I had lost 1.5 lbs of what must have been water weight through sweat.

By the time the half-hour drive from the hike was complete, my shirt had dried and was encrusted with salt crystals.

Thank Gord we didn't do it in August.


I've had my Mac Mini for a few weeks now and have essentially dumped Lunix on the desktop. It's been nice because I've also been able to install Windows and my old Windows games through boot camp. I only have a couple of complains, like:

Why does iTunes bite so hard? Is there an OSX music program that can deal with music files on a NAS in a reasonable fashion?

Why does iPhoto bite so hard? Is there an OSX photo management program that can keep its library on a NAS in a reasonable fashion?

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finishing a hike on concrete by MillMan (2.00 / 0) #1 Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 05:27:01 PM EST
doesn't get much worse than that.

When I'm imprisoned as an enemy combatant, will you blog about it?


oh yes it does by R343L (2.00 / 0) #2 Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 05:49:23 PM EST
A completely irrational course of swinging axes, chompers, large weights and piranha pools to jump over.

You know, like in Galaxy Quest only in suburban San Francisco. (I know -- there weren't any piranha pools in Galaxy Quest, but there should have been.)

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Ridge trail by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #3 Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 06:07:38 PM EST
I have mixed feelings about it. It is nice in theory, but the realities of trying to do it after development has already occurred mean that parts of it will suck. At least the Chabot region is nice. (Though Redwood Park, north of there is a nice area.)
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NFS is your friend. by MohammedNiyalSayeed (2.00 / 0) #4 Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 06:57:29 PM EST

Mount the drive locally on the Mac Mini, export NFS shares for your music and photo libraries, over wired ethernet, with proper permissions, and your problems are over. Or, you could keep doing things the way you have them now, and continue to be frustrated. Your choice.


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No, they are not. by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #5 Tue Apr 15, 2008 at 09:17:04 PM EST
Watch iTunes fail to deal appropriately when the share isn't mounted. Watch iTunes barf on flac files. Watch iPhoto refuse to import files to any folder other than the default. Watch iPhoto insist that all files be referenced in ~/Pictures/iPhoto Library.

I don't want to export anything...I want the files on my 1.5 Terabyte RAID NAS with the weekly backup system, not the little drive that came with the mini. I want both iTunes and iPhoto to rationally deal with this situation.
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And I don't want to pay taxes. by MohammedNiyalSayeed (2.00 / 0) #6 Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 12:09:29 AM EST

What I'm saying is this: either you can make things work the way they're known to work, or you can have things *not* work, and then whine about how they don't work the way they want them to. If option two is your choice, I can't, and won't, bother helping. If option one is your choice, I can provide you with a solution.


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Working by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #13 Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 09:54:32 AM EST
The way they are known to work doesn't, AFAIK, work for me. I was hoping for a solution that actually solved my problem rather than the typical Apple "your problem doesn't exist because we don't want you to do that" crap.
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I'm not sure what exactly your problem is by codemonkey uk (2.00 / 0) #7 Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:49:40 AM EST
As far as I know, Andie has her iTunes library on an external HD with no problems...

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I'm guessing by bobdole (2.00 / 0) #22 Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 06:35:04 PM EST
but I think he means that when it is not connected, iTunes craps out and starts complaining about everything instead of degrading at least somewhat nicely.
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iPhoto folder by joh3n (4.00 / 2) #10 Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 08:07:51 AM EST
Here's one way to get the folder elsewhere from the mini's drive:

1) backup the photos on the mini
2)  delete the iPhoto Library folder
3)  launch iPhoto

it will ask you to locate or create the iphoto library which now doesnt exist, and you can specify the mounted drive as opposed to the mini's drive.

This is how I've done it on my machine with a firewire external as opposed to the mini's drive.

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Hey by ucblockhead (4.00 / 1) #17 Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 11:41:00 AM EST
That's so crazy that it just might work!
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what was the problem where iTunes by joh3n (2.00 / 0) #18 Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 12:17:20 PM EST
was freaking out?

FYI, if you haven't tried it, macosxhints.com is a rather nice resource.

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Flac metadata support, mostly by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #19 Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 01:40:13 PM EST
Also, it got in this state where it had all my podcasts in two separate places. For one particular file, it errored on the first copy, which was marked "new" and when it tried to copy the not new version it would somehow copy the other one, labeled not new. It's not as big of an issue as the iPhoto thing, which, if you fix works, you are a living god and I hereby dedicate my firstborn's soul to you.
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The iPhoto fix by joh3n (2.00 / 0) #20 Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:14:55 PM EST
should work just fine as long as the NAS is mounted at the time of iPhoto launching.

Regarding iTunes, you may want to go for an alternative.  Something like Songbird (http://www.songbirdnest.com/) may be up your alley.

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Songbird by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #21 Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 04:02:29 PM EST
I haven't tried it in ages...it used to be bog slow, but I've heard it has gotten better. The founder was on the board of the dotcom I used to work at.
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It worked! by ucblockhead (4.00 / 1) #24 Sun Apr 20, 2008 at 05:00:09 PM EST
My firstborn is yours!

(Let me get you the address of his daycare so you can start with the checks.)
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I'll make you a deal by joh3n (4.00 / 1) #26 Sun Apr 20, 2008 at 05:36:25 PM EST
You keep the child, I'll keep you indebted to me for all eternity.

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Why does iTunes/iPhoto bite so hard. by Evil Cloaked User (4.00 / 1) #8 Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 05:39:17 AM EST
Because they weren't designed for you. They were designed for most other people. The people who don't know what flac is.

But hell, you're running a unix system with X, gcc, and many pre-existing native ports. I use iTunes, Quicktime, Frontrow etc. happily 90% of the time. But if I'm downloading an AVI from the office and want to start watching it while it's still downloading, or if I want to change the aspect ratio to fit my TV, or if I want to pull in subtitles, I'll use VLC. Those are your choices.


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iTunes+iPhoto by wiredog (2.00 / 0) #9 Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 08:03:18 AM EST
I don't have any trouble with having parts of the iTunes library on an external hard drive. Haven't tried a NAS, though. iTunes really isn't designed to have it's library on another part of the network, I think. Poke around apple.com in the knowledgebase. Someone may have a fix.

If you have a large number of images, organized in any way other than what iPhoto expects, then it sucks. I don't use it. Use Gimp.

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iTunes + iPhoto by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #11 Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 09:45:48 AM EST
Can't help with flac, but you'll have to explain more about what your problems are with iTunes and iPhoto on an external HD.

MNS probably has the key, though. If you're running leopard, we can fix you up so that the NFS shares automount as soon as they are accessed, saving you problems with missing shares.

On the other hand, if you want to have multiple photo libraries, which I recommend, check out iphoto library manager - it's a bit of a hack, but it works.

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Many problems by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #12 Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 09:52:40 AM EST
On Windows, iTunes gets confused when an external USB drive goes changes drive letters and gives you no way of telling it where the music is (other than laboriously, one file at a time.)

As far as FLAC goes, I'm mostly annoyed that it imports things to genres like "AlternativeRockAlternativeRockAlternativeRock".
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OOOooooooh. On Windows. by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #14 Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 10:05:02 AM EST
I see.

Yeah, I can see where that would be a problem - but does iTunes require a drive letter on Windows, as opposed to a network share type id?

You were talking about a NAS before, could you locate your library at "\NASMyMusiciTunes"?

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Stupid scoop. Stupid backslashes. by ObviousTroll (2.00 / 0) #15 Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 10:20:44 AM EST
\\NAS\MyMusic\iTunes.

Anyway, the mac version of both apps allows you to select your library at start time by holding down the option key; I checked, but I can't find a similar capability on the windows version of iTunes.

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OSes by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #16 Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 11:40:08 AM EST
Different OSes...different problems. On OSX, I can probably force it to work. I've just got low patience after fighting with it on Windows for so long.
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i've been wanting by aphrael (2.00 / 0) #23 Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 10:03:36 PM EST
another diablo trek.

If television is a babysitter, the internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up.


I'm game by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #25 Sun Apr 20, 2008 at 05:01:06 PM EST
Thought there are other great hikes we could do.
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